tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637258419041460815.post5610469594310928592..comments2009-10-30T12:54:56.723+01:00Greghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07950211661651836525noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637258419041460815.post-48603053887871223632009-10-30T12:54:56.723+01:002009-10-30T12:54:56.723+01:00Nita,<br />Thanks. Seems like God&#39;s grace in the freely given is connected with a givenness that is always already there. Perhaps, the inability to comprehend is due to a surplus of meaning, but a surplus of meaning already means something understandable otherwise there would be no surplus.<br /><br />I agree that the whole discussion of gift and grace, especially in continental philosophy, is amazing.Greghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07950211661651836525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637258419041460815.post-87634262828730478782009-10-30T12:25:12.181+01:002009-10-30T12:25:12.181+01:00&quot;If we receive grace from God, why is this gift so infrequently passed on to others?&quot; I tend to agree with Lukas, as far as I am concerned, that it is because of my own selfishness and self-righteous misunderstanding about justice that I miss the point you just made that &quot;true grace is that which is also given.&quot; The givenness of the gift --this is a real challenge for us in a mass-consumerist, exchange world, as we tend to miss what is really at stake in the gift being freely given to us. I confess that I am amazed at this whole talk about the gift and God&#39;s grace: this is something I cannot comprehend, like Kierkegaard and Derrida said, it is beyond my understanding.<br />Shabbath Shalom!Nitahttp://www.nythamar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637258419041460815.post-34952692311515111182009-10-29T17:52:41.021+01:002009-10-29T17:52:41.021+01:00Lukas,<br />Thanks. Yes, it seems that justice is so much easier to pass on to the other and therefore grace pales into insignificance. Shouldn&#39;t be this way because grace is not to merely be received, but true grace is that which is also given.Greghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07950211661651836525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-637258419041460815.post-35092997127588058492009-10-29T15:25:43.021+01:002009-10-29T15:25:43.021+01:00Because we don&#39;t care (for others and about the grace we received...)?<br /><br />Maybe also because of our false understanding about justice (seems to equal to equality in our minds, since we are selfish...)?<br /><br />LukasLukas und Céline Kuhshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14080046614873122838noreply@blogger.com