Friday, May 12, 2017

Friday Musings - May 12


I’d wager that Jesus would have died had he not been crucified.

8 comments:

carter said...

That is one question I have piddled with. So, resurrection?

Greg said...

Carter, thanks. Hmm? Resurrection in any case would happen if Jesus was to be the first of many to follow.

carter said...

Mmm. If he lived to a ripe old age, would his resurrection body be old and wrinkled, unrecognizable until he spoke, or would be be buff like the contemporary churchy portrayals--more Anglo than Semitic?

Greg said...

Carter, That's a great question. I really have no idea how to respond. I'd wager that the issue of the 'resurrection body' was a somewhat mysterious one to the biblical writers, who though they made attempts to say something, didn't seem to have much to go on themselves.

carter said...

Forgive my snide comment about churchy jesus. The gospel and acts stories are interesting. Jesus appears to Mary, but she doesn't know who he is until he calls her name. The two on the Emmaus Road didn't until he broke bread. And then vanished. He appeared to Saul but not to his companions. He appeared in the upper room when the door was locked. Did he walk through it?
The stone wasn't rolled away to let him out but to let us in.
So if by his stripes we are healed,and he died an old man, would we reinterpret the stripes to be whatever he died from?

Greg said...

Carter, Indeed the resurrection body is like no other, whatever that may be ultimately. Stripes are a metaphor for some form of suffering on our behalf and Jesus, as human, would have experienced plenty of this in a lifetime. Yet, of course, that human lifetime didn't last long and culminates on a cross and then in a resurrection in some transformed state.

carter said...

So, let's go back to your original question: how do we reconsider the stripes if he died at life expectancy: are the stripes the fever, the cancer, the heart attack, the heart failure, etc.?

My theological musings are moving further from the typical evangelical ideas, and I am very interested, even though my questions this weekend have seemed to be adversarial.

Greg said...

Carter, I share your direction, which is especially evident in my books From Evolution to Eden and Living Spiritual Rhythms Books 1-4. Yes, I think those would count for stripes, but would add as well the tremendous personal weight of taking the burdens of others. The original post was out to highlight the humanity of Jesus, which is too often underplayed in evangelical circles, as well I would add, as the cosmic Christ.