Thursday, August 19, 2010

The ZigZag Café

We will be convening here at the ZigZag café, Suisse, on Thursdays for conversation and dialogue. I invite you to stop by every Thursday for the question of the day. Your thoughts and participation are most welcome. Pull up a stool, avec un café, un thé, ou un chocolat chaud, et un croissant, and join in here on Thursday at the ZZ café.

For today:

What do you find the most mysterious about the Christian life?


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Unknown said...

The apparent discrepancy between God's promises, which the Bible says it is impossible for him to fail to keep, and external objective reality. The horrific heresy of double predestination could explain it, but Hebrews 11 actually says that there were those who did not inherit the promises.

Are, as some Christians think, both Calvinists and 'faith and prosperity', Christians who do not have promises fulfilled, actually lost or elect to damnation? How can there be an actual contradiction in the Bible?

Greg said...

Thanks. Thorny questions. Let's see? I wonder if external objective reality can be solely what's observable with the senses. It's not less than that, but it might be more.

The Hebrews text seems to stress that the promises of this OT list of folk were those of land and ancestry, which were indeed fulfilled, but in a empirical (partial) manner that is not yet complete. There is something better to come. Granted, there is the mysterious character of the notion of wrongful oppression and divine discipline.

No, I don't think those that are Christian who do not have promises fulfilled (it does seem to depend on what these might be thought to be) are damned, but there is a somewhat mysterious character about the final destiny of each one.

My preference is that there is paradox in the Bible, not contradiction.